Its probably that those looking to leave either school aren't the strongest within their respective cohorts which might be why they are looking for a change to begin with.Does anyone have any view on which is better at music? London SE22 8TE. )- facilities are amazing (for both junior and secondary) and equal focus on academia as sport/art/performance- high end lunch provision and after school clubs- very tough to get in too so PERCEIVED (she says in reality both are great!) Does she have a preference? I read Summers post as the opposite- ie. We have friends at Alleyns whose children are equally happy. We saw all the facilities again. Alleyns and JAGS students should take the ‘S3 Shuttle’ from JAGS to Dulwich College in the afternoon (departing at 4.00pm and board the B1 at DC. GOV.UK uses cookies which are essential for the site to work. Gives opportunity and encouragement and support to pursue passions and talent, but also highly motivating and supportive for all-rounders or those who don't have absolutely outstanding talents in one thing. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. We were worried that all girls may be a bit much for her but she's found her group of friends who like similar things. @DiscoJanet - Alleyn's do interview pupils for 7+ (I would have thought at 11+, too) but they don't interview parents. Alleyn's 400; Alleyn's Holiday Camps; Alleyn's WW1 Commemoration Site (opens in new window/tab) The 400th Anniversary Campaign; Latest News; Contact Us; Term Dates; Coronavirus Information; Back to top. T: 020 8693 0374 . We've unexpectedly been offered a place at both Jags and Alleyns junior school and don't know which to pick! My older DD does have a fairly diverse year in the senior school though with a lot of the children from different backgrounds and many benefitting from Alleyn’s fantastic bursary provision. Dulwich College is a 2–19 independent, day and boarding school for boys in Dulwich, London, England.It began as the College of God's Gift, founded in 1619 by Elizabethan actor Edward Alleyn, with the original purpose of educating 12 poor scholars.It began to grow into a large school from 1857, and took its current form in 1870 when it moved into its current premises. Many thanks, Have a daughter at both. We honestly weren't expecting to be in this position so we have encouraged her not to develop a favourite over the past year or so - which is backfiring on us all now!She is sporty. Sun 13 Dec - 2-3pm. JAGS is better than most girls' sports apart from water polo, the drama at Alleyn's is outstanding, the music at both is very good. JAGS is a 4-18 academically selective school for girls with a passion for life and learning. Community. I think these departments really benefit from being coed (I think JAGs may collaborate with Dulwich College for music and drama so perhaps this isn't a massive issue in the older years). You can’t go wrong with either so it’s more about picking which is better for your child. Forgot account? We'd always assumed we would prefer a co-ed school but the facilities and clubs at Jags junior school seem better. Contact James Allen's Girls' School. We saw most of the school and were able to ask lots of questions. Not Now. They typically make up one third of the cohort at 11+, with around two thirds joining at this point. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 4 messages.). While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it.Which you pick comes down more to ethos I think. I have A very close friend that has one at each of the schools. Log In Also Alleyns do interview even at 4+ where the assessment is entirely play based in a group setting with other candidates and involves no formal academic assessment. JAGS pupils regularly achieve excellent results in the National Mathematics Competitions and our Hans Woyda Quiz team is never considered an 'easy' match by other schools. It has a senior school for 11- to 18-year-old girls, a prep school … Yes i know they do at 11 though. Money isn’t class after all.When my husband and I went around I remember thinking Alleyns felt far posher in class terms than the other schools we’d visited. I don't remember my dd having an interview for the 7+! That is not to say Alleyns doesn't get good results but they have a much broader intake academically due to their admissions policy. She says ultimately both are excellent schools. This raises questions for me. I get the impression that they are slightly more laid back about academics... but then that's still a pretty high standard. Alleyn's 400; Alleyn's Holiday Camps ; Alleyn's WW1 Commemoration Site (opens in new window/tab) … JAGS Prospectus . To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. Facebook is showing information to help you better understand the purpose of a Page. We also use non-essential cookies to help us improve government digital services. There is another thread on the board with a mom who has kids at both Alleyns and Dulwich College and she mentioned Alleyns has a far more ‘luvvie’ posh vibe when asked to compare the schools. Re the diversity issue I do think a lot of ethnic minority families (of which we are one) prefer single sex environments hence more at Jags/DC. Another Press Conference this afternoon .... Do you have questions about creating positive bathroom habits and routines? See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. Interested in joining JAGS Choral Society? University of Cambridge - Classics Project. I wonder if any school does this. Our DD got into both also for 4+. And before anyone shoots me down, I am just passing on her opinions. I just hope it helps as we had a similar dilemma with north London schools for my eldest and a post on here really helped me choose the right school so I hope this helps in return! We've unexpectedly been offered a place at both Jags and Alleyns junior school and don't know which to pick! Please be aware that many of these are given to students attending the Junior School, who sit the entrance exam as well. I live locally and I don't think Alleyns is perceived to be much better at all. I have one friend who chose JAGs over Alleyn's as she thought it would be better for her very sporty daughter. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. Kerboodle. T: 020 8557 1500 reception@alleyns.org.uk. My Maths. Log In. Our pupils are drawn from a variety of social, cultural and economic backgrounds, which contributes to the success and character of JAGS. We'd always assumed we would prefer a co-ed school but the facilities and clubs at Jags junior school seem better. But am struggling to write Alleyns off just because of that.We have visits to both schools booked - hopefully that will clarify the situation! more stories. or. T: 020 8693 1181. prep. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. If they want to be more inclusive, it’s something they should think about as it’s actually the staff / administrators that give it that vibe imo. Alleyns' policies strike me as more nurturing-- they don't manage kids out, they have a sibling policy etc so they aren't as obsessed with league table results and it has a reputation for being less pressured- I have friends who teach music at Alleyns and JAGs. I love the feel of the senior school but am just not sure if there are enough facilities in the junior school, for example with regard to music tuition, drama etc especially compared to Jags junior schools. I think these departments really benefit from being coed (I think JAGs may collaborate with Dulwich College for music and drama so perhaps this isn't a massive issue in the older years).I think you will get a really good idea when you revisit; you can try to picture your dd at the school when you visit. At the Pre-Prep (Reception to Year 2) and Prep (Year 3-6) we offer an exceptionally high quality of education provided by a team of skilled, motivated, and dedicated teachers and support staff. Alleyn’s Great Hall is a site of memorial for the fallen from the school, and therefore it returned to one of its original uses as the Remembrance was observed. As at Jags it was a totally separate activity from the entrance exam itself (about two weeks later, 1-1 with the head etc). jags.org.uk Head Alex Hutchinson, MA, from September 2020; previously Head of Woldingham School Pupils 1,129 day girls Ages 4–18 Term fees £6,267 Oxbridge 11% Admission Cognitive ability test and interview Alumnae Lucy Boynton, Anita Brookner, Charlotte Ritchie Prep head Finola Stack Prep Pupils 303 day girls Prep Ages 4-11 Prep Term fees £5,679. Alleyns.schoolpost.co.uk: visit the most interesting Alleyn S School Post pages, well-liked by users from United Kingdom, or check the rest of alleyns.schoolpost.co.uk data below.Alleyns.schoolpost.co.uk is a web project, safe and generally suitable for all ages. Visitor Posts. 55 likes. Yammer. It is the oldest girls’ independent school in Greater London. The certainly do now - my son has just been through it: written exams and, if you make the cut, then an activity morning about 10 days later, which also includes a 1:1 with a teacher (possibly the head). )But it definitely seems less diverse than pretty much every other local school. The thing that tips it towards JAPs / JAGs for me at the moment is that its much more diverse (ethnically and economically) than Alleyns. If you are interested in applying to JAGS, we have produced a series of films to give you a taste of life both in and out of the classroom. What a lovely choice to have to make! I am sure there are lots of differing opinions on this topic, this is just one person’s view based on their child. alleyns in a sentence - Use "alleyns" in a sentence 1. The Alleyn’s Drama Department is a space where pupils can leave behind the complex business of being a teenager in the 21 st Century to focus on making and enjoying challenging and lively theatre, developing their confidence, creativity and craft in a welcoming and inclusive environment.. Vocab Express. Mainly because we felt it less pressured - Alleyns does have high expectations, but ultimately we felt Jags had a feel that if you weren't absolutely excelling at something/everything you would be sidelined. See as more exclusive. Find Us. JAGS describes itself as a school ‘with a heart and conscience and one which reaches out beyond its own community ... What happened to all the Boot Fairs held at Alleyns to raise money for the school – perhaps it was the wrong ‘sort from the local community’ that stopped them. Find out what Mumsnet users thought of Echo by Lloyd’s Pharmacy, Share your imaginative play tips with The LEGO Group: £200 voucher to be won, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. I don't like that they manage girls out of the prep as it must create a feeling of added pressure to do well. The same 100 girls that apply to Alleyns apply to JAGs. To think women should be told this about the morning after pill? JAG's has much more racial diversity in the junior school and in the secondary school offer a higher percentage of bursaries so is pretty economically diverse too. Create New Account. However, having looked at all the schools in the area including co-eds like Rosemead and Oakfield, they are all significantly more diverse than Alleyns for some reason. senior. Carols at Bell House Garden Sun 20 Dec - 3.00-3.30pm. Please go promptly to your pick up point after school. After attending Alleyns School, where his performing career began, he studied at Central St . See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. Please s end an email to info@jagschoralsociety.com. and as your DD has gotten in, she'll have no problem with the academic level. 54 likes. Contact the Admissions Team. The teachers are really supportive and school lunches apparently delicious. Alleyn's School Townley Road London SE22 8SU. We celebrate the fact that our girls speak some 50 home languages. From what I hear Alleyn is by far the better school. We met key staff who were all v welcoming and friendly. Jags VS Alleyns. I wonder if its reputation itself puts people from non-white non-Dulwich village-types off from applying in the first place. We initially thought we wanted Jags but went to see them both again (after we had the offers), talked to local friends with experience of both, and decided on Alleyns in the end. Dulwichmum - that's interesting, because that's the opposite of what I have heard, particularly for the junior school where friendship have been difficult to make due to small class sizes, plus some other reasons which are more hearsay. She described DC as more down to earth which I think is also true for JAGS.I think that’s probably off putting for many as no matter how much money you have now as someone who was either previously working class or non-white British that vibe will strike you as the school potentially not being for you. Welcome to the JAGS Junior School website, which is intended to give you a flavour of the education the girls experience at our school. B2 CHISLEHURST / BROMLEY / PENGE / SYDENHAM Serves JAGS and Alleyn's only . There's very little difference in results - JAGS is usually fractionally ahead but you'd expect that from a girls' school, but if you have a bright, motivated child at either they'll come out with stellar grades Go alleyns! 144 East Dulwich Grove. 2. My DD is at JAGS and abosolutely loves it. January 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM. I really respect that ethos. Izzy Elkington. We have another DD in Alleyn’s senior school and have been very pleased with it so far. Can I ask what you've heard about Alleyns that suggests it's by far the better school please? While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it. I wonder whether there is some unwritten agreement between the schools. Alleyns definitely didn't do that at 7! My dd is at Alleyns, she had offers from both Alleyns and Jags at 7+. There's a thread further down this page...They're both great . It obviously depends on the child but Alleyns is more nurturing and focused on making children into well rounded people rather than passing exams. Community. March 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM. Charlotte Busn-God Borten . Just on gut feel we went for Alleyns. James Allen’s Girls’ School – 11+ Maths Sample Paper – This paper solved by Share with your Friends and Family Facebook 0 Google+ 0 Twitter Email Skype WhatsApp[Mobile] We also have offers from Jags and Alleyn’s at 7+. Kudos. Useful Links. Maybe it was included in the assessment day itself then? none fo the Alleyns girls got into JAGS even though a 2 JAGs girls got into Alleyns. Congratulations to your dd, what a great choice to have.What are your dd's interests? Just go with the atmosphere your DD likes most... she will thrive at either. Log In. Don't know if that's a fair assessment but it's how we felt. James Allen's Girls' School (JAGS) is an independent day school for girls aged 4 - 18 in Dulwich, London. Just looking at the admissions information, both send a similar proportion of children to top schools.JAP's does have more of a reputation for being a hot house though I've heard its not entirely true and is quite nurturing from friends with girls there now. She's delighted and we're delighted for her.We've already been to open days and we will revisit both schools but realistically we'll struggle to choose as they're both such strong schools.Any opinions? I just can't work out why. It is a registered charity and was originally part of Edward Alleyn's College of God's Gift charitable foundation, which also included Alleyn's School and Dulwich College. However, I know parents who swear up and down that JAPS is very nurturing despite its reputation for only suiting a very academic girl. We are leaning towards Alleyn’s for this DD too mainly due to the same observations DulwichMum1234 has made above. 144 East Dulwich Grove. Hi SWLondon2,So here are observations from my friend:Alleyn- lots of focus on being well rounded, confident and self assured- children are instilled with independence and leadership qualities early on- academic but also focuses on other aspects such as presenting well, wit and social spark (her words! Yes Londongirl the lack of diversity at Alleyns is quite striking. who has been increasingly irritated by the boys messing around in class. It would be interesting to see the breakdown of diversity of ethnic and economic groups of those applying to each school actually. more stories . contact. Known universally as JAGS, the school dates from 1741, part of the same foundation as Dulwich College and Alleyn's School, and claims to be the oldest girls' school in London. We didn't regretted our choice for a single second. See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. Directions and Travel Information . I can't think it would be an admissions issue at all (especially as out of all the schools we've gone through both the 7+ and 11+ processes for both my dc, the admissions process at Alleyns was the about the only one which seemed to be purely based on academic assessments - ie no interviews or parent meetings, and as far as I remember didn't even ask what the parents occupations were or if there were family connections to the school, unlike eg both Jags and Dulwich college IIRC. Its the main thing that gives me pause about the school. The later Robert Browne wrote to Alleyn in 1612, showing that the Alleyns knew both men. pre-prep. Alleyn's School, registered charity no. We don't know anyone at either school so would love to hear from anyone who knows them please. Please view here. She's got a good mix of friends - both 'girly' and 'sporty' mix, who all seem to get on well. Would you be able to ask your friend why she would pick Alleyns over Jags please? Senior School Parent Portal. But if you are asking about advice on which to pick my friend says Alleyn. or. Alleyns is certainly very international though and has a lot of bilingual kids. Streatham and Clapham?? It felt more vibrant and modern. 1057971. Open Mornings. The teachers are kind, caring, while also being very motivating and ambitious for the children.I think it depends on what kind of environment would suit your dd best. So our dd has (unexpectedly) got into both of these at 11+. The Coach Service transports children to and from school daily, on both regular morning and afternoon coaches and also late coaches for … JAGs has 35 places at 4+ and Alleyns has 9 for girls at 4+. Alanah Dennis. So sought after, well done on getting one of only 18 places! To think women should be told this about the morning after pill? 2 Dulwich Village. Create New Account. This is page 1 of 2 (This thread has 33 messages.). 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